{"id":22229,"date":"2020-02-15T05:00:26","date_gmt":"2020-02-15T04:00:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stefan-taege.de\/kasia\/?p=22229"},"modified":"2023-07-29T12:36:41","modified_gmt":"2023-07-29T10:36:41","slug":"die-fastnacht-in-triberg-und-warum-alemannisch-nicht-gleich-alemannisch-ist","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stefan-taege.de\/kasia\/2020\/02\/15\/die-fastnacht-in-triberg-und-warum-alemannisch-nicht-gleich-alemannisch-ist\/","title":{"rendered":"Die Fastnacht in Triberg &#8211; und warum alemannisch nicht gleich alemannisch ist&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&#8222;Es ist die <em>Badisch<\/em>-Alemannsche Fastnacht!&#8220; Sagt Anne und sieht emp\u00f6rt aus. &#8222;Einer der Jungs da drau\u00dfen hat mir daf\u00fcr gegen das Schienbein getreten!&#8220; Ja, meine Freundin Anne hatte den Fehler gemacht, von einer Schw\u00e4bisch-Alemannschen Fastnacht zu sprechen. Und das ist hier nicht das gleiche, oh nein, ganz und gar nicht! Da reagieren die Einheimischen ganz empfindlich drauf&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Die Alemannische Fastnacht, die hier um Himmels Willen nicht Karneval genannt werden darf, hatte ich schon vor ein paar Jahren und nur wenige Kilometer weiter im Schwarzw\u00e4lder Haslach <a href=\"https:\/\/stefan-taege.de\/kasia\/2019\/02\/28\/von-hexen-teufeln-und-waldfeen-alemannsche-fasnet-in-haslach\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">erleben d\u00fcrfen<\/a>. Faszinierend, all die Kost\u00fcme, die fellbedeckten, zotteligen Gestalten mit den h\u00f6lzernen Teufelsgesichtern, die traditionsreichen Hexen, die sich immer wieder aus dem Zug l\u00f6sen und auf die Zuschauer zurennen, vor allem, wenn sie merken, dass sie fotografiert werden. Doch dass alemannisch nicht gleich alemannisch ist und hier nochmals nach schw\u00e4bischen und badischen unterschieden wird, dar\u00fcber hatte mich zum ersten Mal Anne Katrin aufgekl\u00e4rt.<\/p>\n<p>Wie hatte sie es also geschafft, sich derma\u00dfen in die Nesseln zu setzen?<\/p>\n<p>Zu ihrer Ehrenrettung muss ich gestehen: es war nicht ihre Schuld.<\/p>\n<p>Mit dem Wetter haben wir wirklich Gl\u00fcck, denn die Sonne ist zwar tr\u00fcb, aber sie ist da und scheint sachte auf unsere K\u00f6pfe, als ich das Auto in eine Parkl\u00fccke steuere. Und wir haben noch Zeit. Sehr viel Zeit. Was liegt also n\u00e4her, als unsere Hintern im n\u00e4chstgelegenen Cafe zu parken und eine lecker Schwarzw\u00e4lder Kirschtorte zu essen. Neben uns im Cafe sitzen noch andere Touristen, die sich ganz gerne den traditionellen Umzug ansehen wollen, doch es ist noch ein- bis anderthalb Stunden hin, bis die ersten Waldgeister losmarschieren.<\/p>\n<p>Sp\u00e4ter beim Bezahlen frage ich die Mitarbeiterin, die uns bedient, welche Art Fastnacht denn hier gefeiert wird. Ich hatte es vers\u00e4umt, im Vorfeld zu recherchieren, aber sicher ist sicher&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Die Ressentiments zwischen den Schwaben und den Badenern gehen zur\u00fcck bis ins Mittelalter, als zwischen den reichen Schwaben und den weniger wohlhabenden Badenern ein ungesundes Abh\u00e4ngigkeitsverh\u00e4ltnis entstand. So wurden beispielsweise die Kinder armer badischer Bauern in Dienerschaft nach Schwaben verkauft und auch sonst viel Schabernack getrieben. Allein schon die Namensgebung war ein Grund f\u00fcr den gekr\u00e4nkten Stolz der Badener, denn ein Badisches Gro\u00dfherzogtum war dem K\u00f6nigreich Schwaben nat\u00fcrlich nicht gleichzusetzen. Nicht zuletzt befeuert die Streitfrage um die <a href=\"https:\/\/www.swr.de\/landesschau-bw\/studiogaeste\/der-flaggenstreit-um-das-karlsruher-schloss-warum-sich-badener-und-schwaben-nicht-moegen\/-\/id=2248750\/did=22038730\/nid=2248750\/3cwg58\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">badische Flagge<\/a> auf dem Karlsruher Schloss die gegenseitige Abneigung, doch die Liste der Gr\u00fcnde lie\u00dfe sich unendlich lang fortsetzen.<\/p>\n<p>Lang, lang ist es her, doch noch immer wird die gegenseitige Abneigung k\u00fcnstlich aufrechterhalten und kommt bei diversen Festivit\u00e4ten wie eben dem Fastnachtsumzug, oder bei Fussballspielen zwischen Anh\u00e4ngern des VfB Stuttgart und des SC Karlsruhe zutage.<\/p>\n<p>Und vor einem badischen Fastnachtsumzug hatte mich Anne gewarnt. &#8222;Sie ziehen Leute aus dem Publikum und verhauen ihnen mit bearbeiteten Schweineblasen den Hintern. Man wird nass gemacht und zum Beispiel in eine Badewanne gepackt.&#8220; Ich bin beeindruckt und ziehe meine \u00e4lteste, ausgewaschene Jacke an&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8222;Das hier ist schw\u00e4bisch.&#8220; Sagt uns die Dame. &#8222;Schw\u00e4bisch-Alemannisch. Das Alemannisch ist wichtig.&#8220;<\/p>\n<p>Also verlassen wir das Cafe und glauben uns gut informiert.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"22242\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/stefan-taege.de\/kasia\/2020\/02\/15\/die-fastnacht-in-triberg-und-warum-alemannisch-nicht-gleich-alemannisch-ist\/20190303_131548\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stefan-taege.de\/kasia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/20190303_131548.jpg?fit=2048%2C1536&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2048,1536\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;1.5&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;SM-G965F&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1551618948&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;4.3&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;320&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.02&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"20190303_131548\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stefan-taege.de\/kasia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/20190303_131548.jpg?fit=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stefan-taege.de\/kasia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/20190303_131548.jpg?fit=1020%2C765&amp;ssl=1\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-22242\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stefan-taege.de\/kasia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/20190303_131548.jpg?resize=1020%2C765&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"1020\" height=\"765\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stefan-taege.de\/kasia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/20190303_131548.jpg?w=2048&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stefan-taege.de\/kasia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/20190303_131548.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stefan-taege.de\/kasia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/20190303_131548.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stefan-taege.de\/kasia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/20190303_131548.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1020px) 100vw, 1020px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Der Umzug verl\u00e4uft ziemlich unaufgeregt und erinnert ziemlich stark an die Fastnacht in Haslach. So ziemlich die gleichen Kost\u00fcme, die gleichen Teufel, Hexen und W\u00f6lfe. Auch hier rei\u00dfen sich die Hexen aus der Reihe und erschrecken die Au\u00dfenstehenden. Anne ergattert ein Bild mit einem der Teufel.<\/p>\n<p>Bonbons fangen ist nicht drin, denn es werden kaum welche geworfen und den Schnaps, der in Haslach bei dieser Gelegenheit ausgeschenkt wird, kann man hier komplett vergessen &#8211; den saufen die Umz\u00fcgler selber, um sich anzuheitern. Als ich mich nach einem Bonbon b\u00fccke, sehe ich den genervten Blick einer Frau hinter mir. Es gibt sie immer, diese Menschen, die, egal, was gerade um sie herum passiert, zum Lachen grunds\u00e4tzlich in den Keller gehen. 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height: 336px;\" \/> <\/a> <\/div> <\/div> <\/div> <\/div>\n<p>Der Umzug ist ziemlich schnell vorbei und wir suchen uns eine Lokalit\u00e4t, wo wir die unbefriedigende Veranstaltung nachfeiern k\u00f6nnen. Das &#8222;Schwarzw\u00e4lder-Kirschtortenhaus&#8220;, das ich von meinem letzten Besuch hier in Triberg kenne, bietet sich da f\u00f6rmlich an und meine Freundin f\u00fchlt sich hier drinnen pudelwohl. Das Lokal ist urig und gem\u00fctlich, gef\u00fchrt wird es von einer ungarischen Familie. Wir setzen uns an die Bar und bestellen ein Schn\u00e4pschen.<\/p>\n<p>Und das fast leere Lokal bleibt nicht lange leer; kurz, nachdem wir uns hingesetzt hatten, betritt unter dem Ger\u00e4usch von Pauken und Trompetenmusik der erste Fastnachtsverein die R\u00e4ume. Sogleich wird es laut und schunkelig und ein Harlekin steht am Mikrofon und singt Sauflieder. Anne kennt sie alle. Das Lokal f\u00fcllt sich und verkleidete Menschen neben uns prosten uns zu. &#8222;Ihr sieht so unverkleidet aus!&#8220; Ruft jemand. Ich antworte: &#8222;Wir sind nur Touristen!&#8220; Wir sitzen da und wackeln zur Musik; hier drinnen ist mehr Stimmung als drau\u00dfen w\u00e4hrend des gesamten Umzugs und unsere Laune steigt mit jeder Minute.<\/p>\n<p>Irgendwann ist Anne weg. Ihre Tasche liegt noch auf dem Sitz. Jemand will mich zum Tanzen herausziehen; ich sage ab. Und im selben Moment denke ich, warum eigentlich nicht, es ist Fasching, verdammt noch mal&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"22260\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/stefan-taege.de\/kasia\/2020\/02\/15\/die-fastnacht-in-triberg-und-warum-alemannisch-nicht-gleich-alemannisch-ist\/20190303_154235\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stefan-taege.de\/kasia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/20190303_154235.jpg?fit=2048%2C1536&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2048,1536\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;1.5&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;SM-G965F&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1551627755&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;4.3&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;800&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.02&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"20190303_154235\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stefan-taege.de\/kasia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/20190303_154235.jpg?fit=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stefan-taege.de\/kasia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/20190303_154235.jpg?fit=1020%2C765&amp;ssl=1\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" class=\"wp-image-22260 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stefan-taege.de\/kasia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/20190303_154235.jpg?resize=642%2C481&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"642\" height=\"481\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stefan-taege.de\/kasia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/20190303_154235.jpg?w=2048&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stefan-taege.de\/kasia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/20190303_154235.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stefan-taege.de\/kasia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/20190303_154235.jpg?resize=768%2C576&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/stefan-taege.de\/kasia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/20190303_154235.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 642px) 100vw, 642px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Als meine Freundin wieder kommt und sich neben mich setzt, ist sie sichtlich emp\u00f6rt. &#8222;Ich habe mich mit den Jugendlichen drau\u00dfen unterhalten. Die sind im Fastnachtsverein und die haben mir gesagt, dass das hier schon badisch ist! Ich habe mich total blamiert. Die Frau im Cafe hat uns eine falsche Information gegeben.&#8220; Ich muss lachen. Vermutlich wusste die Dame es nicht besser. Noch mehr lache ich, als Anne w\u00fctend sagt: &#8222;Einer hat mir daf\u00fcr gegen das Schienbein getreten. Zwar leicht, aber trotzdem!&#8220; Anscheinend war der einzige Grund, weshalb man uns nicht verm\u00f6belt und gebadet hatte, der Tatsache geschuldet, dass Triberg noch ziemlich nahe der schw\u00e4bischen Grenze sind. &#8222;Bei meiner Familie&#8220; &#8211; sagt Anne &#8211; &#8222;wird gaaanz anders gefeiert&#8230;&#8220;<\/p>\n<p>Nichtsdestotrotz war klar, dass wir einer Fehlinformation erlegen sind und der falsche Eindruck verst\u00e4rkte sich w\u00e4hrend des Umzuges noch. So sparsam wie hier in Triberg die Bonbons flogen, glaubte wir doch tats\u00e4chlich, im Schwabenland zu sein&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Abends gegen sechs verlassen wir das &#8222;Schwarzw\u00e4lder Kirschtortenhaus&#8220;. Immerhin haben wir noch eine Heimfahrt von mehr als zwei Stunden. Als wir am besagten Cafe vorbei laufen, sehen wir besagte Dame drinnen stehen. &#8222;Sie haben gesagt, sie werden mit ihr reden. 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